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[7UpJordan]

Understeer, Oversteer, Wombling free...

Oh wait, wrong under and overs.

You would probably get better speed out with oversteer depending on traction.

[volatilis]

Understeer, Oversteer, Wombling free...

Oh wait, wrong under and overs.

You would probably get better speed out with oversteer depending on traction.

Understeer, Oversteer, Wombling free...

the drivers of nurburing,

common are we.

making good use of the cars that we find,

the cars made by beemer that they left behind.

uncle domecialla he can remember the times

when he wasn't behind the brawns.

fota is organised, they work as a team

fota is tidy and fota is clean

understeer, oversteer, wombling free

formula 1 drivers, not so common are we.


sorry.

[darwin dali]

well yeah what scotty said is what youre saying, if the rear wheels slide out while the fronts dont, then that means the fronts have more grip than the rear doesnt it?

yeah, i figured we were saying the same thing, just joe 90 told me it didn't work like that, so was trying to clarify!

i'm just trying to establish if its something the driver can control? when they complain about over steer i just wonder if its because they committed too much to a corner or if its purely an effect of the car.

yeah it can be controlled, like i said sometimes you want it to oversteer to get better exit speed. It can be from the setup then or from the characteristics of the car itself or even like you said a driver goes in too hot and loses the rear end.

interesting. why would i get a better exit speed from an over steer?

In oversteer condition the rear wheels are already aligned better to accelerate out of the corner.

[Jabberwocky]

I remember reading an article ages ago about Patrick Head saying that if a young driver likes under steer he is not a real racer.



Yes a driver will change his steering angle to catch the oversteer. If you watch someone like Hamilton driving he makes sure the front wheel are on the racing line heading in the direction he wants to be going in. He lets the rear wheels do what they like within reason.

[7UpJordan]

Understeer, Oversteer, Wombling free...

Oh wait, wrong under and overs.

You would probably get better speed out with oversteer depending on traction.

Understeer, Oversteer, Wombling free...

the drivers of nurburing,

common are we.

making good use of the cars that we find,

the cars made by beemer that they left behind.

uncle domecialla he can remember the times

when he wasn't behind the brawns.

fota is organised, they work as a team

fota is tidy and fota is clean

understeer, oversteer, wombling free

formula 1 drivers, not so common are we.


sorry.

Brilliant!!!

"That's the spirit, making good use of bad rubbish" as Great Uncle Bulgaria might say.

[EwanM]

Here's twos diagrams. Maybe they'll help explain.

[volatilis]

Here's twos diagrams. Maybe they'll help explain.

Yes, I think I could just spot where the over steer occurred!

[darwin dali]

And here's a straight longhorn steer for comparison:

[volatilis]

And here's a straight longhorn steer for comparison:

reminds me of imola

[texasmr2]

I should make that my new avatar pic!!

[darwin dali]

I should make that my new avatar pic!!

I knew you'd like it - though the term 'steer' implies some serious consequences

[texasmr2]

I should make that my new avatar pic!!

I knew you'd like it - though the term 'steer' implies some serious consequences

Well I'm not gonna touch that even with a ten foot pole, pm sent !

[darwin dali]

I should make that my new avatar pic!!

I knew you'd like it - though the term 'steer' implies some serious consequences

Well I'm not gonna touch that even with a ten foot pole, pm sent !

You'd better not or you'll end up on top of the horns.

[texasmr2]

I should make that my new avatar pic!!

I knew you'd like it - though the term 'steer' implies some serious consequences

Well I'm not gonna touch that even with a ten foot pole, pm sent !

You'd better not or you'll end up on top of the horns.

Sweet talker .

[Brandz]

well yeah what scotty said is what youre saying, if the rear wheels slide out while the fronts dont, then that means the fronts have more grip than the rear doesnt it?

yeah, i figured we were saying the same thing, just joe 90 told me it didn't work like that, so was trying to clarify!

i'm just trying to establish if its something the driver can control? when they complain about over steer i just wonder if its because they committed too much to a corner or if its purely an effect of the car.

yeah it can be controlled, like i said sometimes you want it to oversteer to get better exit speed. It can be from the setup then or from the characteristics of the car itself or even like you said a driver goes in too hot and loses the rear end.

interesting. why would i get a better exit speed from an over steer?

would you be able to straighten up the car quicker and get the power down