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#274417
If it was illegal then where's the penalty? Schumacher was asked to calm down or he would get a penalty - seems fair to me, as long as this sort of discretion is used again for other drivers if future races.


To be fair, Hamilton has been penalised for much, much less. I wanna say this happened during the Turkish GP.


I don't think that's to do with the driver, it's just different stewards having varying interpretations of the rules. This is exactly why I have been saying for years that they shpuld have the same stewards at every single race.


True, didn't mean to imply it was an "it's hamilton" thing. Just saying your "If it was illegal, where's the penalty?" point isn't exactly valid.
#274431
About Hamilton: I think he had a relatively bad start. If he'd jumped forward things would've been quite different. Also, Alonso showed off one of his typical skills: Seeing a hole in a group of cars and diving right in.

About stewards: We all know there's ZERO consistency from race to race, which is totally stupid.
#274434
About stewards: We all know there's ZERO consistency from race to race, which is totally stupid.


This is true with judgement calls in any sport. All you can do is feel your way through each particular contest, and take advantage as much as possible. Just like Schumacher did yesterday. That's the sign of an experienced sportsman.
#274440
Lewis lost the race for himself. Get over it.


:yes:
He was being over cautious. That's what you get after a series of crashes. See... Vettel or Alonso didnt need to be so careful.

Oh.. and all Jenson had to do was sit and wait for the screw-up. He must have known it was coming :D

It's easy to say now that the McLaren's should have set up the cars with longer gears, but who would have honestly thought they'd have been competing with Schumacher instead of a Red Bull? It's common knowledge that McLaren isn't going to make up any ground in the Championships by worrying about the other teams. They HAVE to go after Red Bull, otherwise they might as well just give up.


:yes: Hell yes!! :yes:

This is true with judgement calls in any sport. All you can do is feel your way through each particular contest, and take advantage as much as possible. Just like Schumacher did yesterday. That's the sign of an experienced sportsman.


and :yes: again

Besides the stewards being different, so are the tracks. These moves were able to get pulled becasue it was Monza (and the DRS gave not much advantage, and there's not too much aero advantage to enter-exit corners etc). On many other tracks, Lewis would have gotten him after a couple laps at the most.
#274443
I'm seriously surprised to see so many happy with Schumacher's driving and so many commenting on the fact they want to see real racing.

Especially considering it was only a few months ago when everyone was criticising Hamilton for being too aggressive and reckless and not giving other drivers enough room etc.

I wonder how long till it flips again?
#274444
If we had one set of stewards for all races, we'd get consistent decisions. But, they might be consistently good decisions, or perhaps we'd get consistently bad decisions. But my main worry would be that we'd get consistently utterly insane decisions.
#274445
I'm seriously surprised to see so many happy with Schumacher's driving and so many commenting on the fact they want to see real racing.

Especially considering it was only a few months ago when everyone was criticising Hamilton for being too aggressive and reckless and not giving other drivers enough room etc.

I wonder how long till it flips again?


You're assuming it's the same people complaining in both instances.
#274446
Exciting, good racing, whatever you call it, it was a clear violation of the rules and Schumacher got away with it. Water under the bridge and Lewis handled it well... so I'm having a hard time understanding why there's an argument surrounding this?
#274449
I'm seriously surprised to see so many happy with Schumacher's driving and so many commenting on the fact they want to see real racing.

Especially considering it was only a few months ago when everyone was criticising Hamilton for being too aggressive and reckless and not giving other drivers enough room etc.

I wonder how long till it flips again?


You'll never catch me complaining about drivers being too aggressive. Now there have been times where I think Hamilton made really stupid choices on when he decided to move in for an overtake, which is different than not being ok with people racing dirty.

Shumi @ hungary 2010 = dirty, whether intentional or not.
Hamiliton @ monaco 2011= aggressive, but not dirty. Stupid, but not dirty.
Vettel @ turkey 2010 = agressive, not dirty, but also stupid.
#274450
I'm seriously surprised to see so many happy with Schumacher's driving and so many commenting on the fact they want to see real racing.

Especially considering it was only a few months ago when everyone was criticising Hamilton for being too aggressive and reckless and not giving other drivers enough room etc.

I wonder how long till it flips again?

I did criticise Hamilton at Monaco; not because of his driving; but because of his reaction in front of he TV cameras; blaming other drivers, "he turned into too early"; for me it was a robust slamming of the door to a aggressive move up the inside; this is motorsport; not overtaking on a motorway. I see the Schumacher/Hamilton battle at Monza as the same thing, just that Lewis was more more cautious! You just have to read my signature to realise my feelings on modern F1!
#274452
I'm seriously surprised to see so many happy with Schumacher's driving and so many commenting on the fact they want to see real racing.

Especially considering it was only a few months ago when everyone was criticising Hamilton for being too aggressive and reckless and not giving other drivers enough room etc.

I wonder how long till it flips again?

I did criticise Hamilton at Monaco; not because of his driving; but because of his reaction in front of he TV cameras; blaming other drivers, "he turned into too early"; for me it was a robust slamming of the door to a aggressive move up the inside; this is motorsport; not overtaking on a motorway. I see the Schumacher/Hamilton battle at Monza as the same thing, just that Lewis was more more cautious! You just have to read my signature to realise my feelings on modern F1!


I named no names i just think its funny how Hamilton was too aggressive/reckless back than according to alot of people and yet when other drivers are aggressive/reckless they are praised for it.

And i personally don't like the new silenced Hamilton its boring as hell watching interviews with media drones or drivers with no personality/emotion, you may have not liked what he said but atleast he expressed some emotion and didn't just act like a robot like some.

And also every driver blames the other guy in accidents most just don't get as much screen time as Hamilton.
#274455
I named no names i just think its funny how Hamilton was too aggressive/reckless back than according to alot of people and yet when other drivers are aggressive/reckless they are praised for it.


It is possible for different people to have different opinions. You're acting like everyone here was bashing hamilton and praising schumacher.
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