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Who would you PREFER to win the championship out of Rubens and Jens?

Rubens
12
55%
Jenson
10
45%
#158009
Rubens had potential at one point to become a top line driver, I think he wasted his best years in poor cars and poorer contracts. Button has never really looked like stepping up to the Alonso/Raikkonen/Hamilton level and I'm a little disappointed that it looks like he'll be champion this year.


I agree. Button is a bit underwhelming, there are quite a few drivers on the grid that are better than him, he was just lucky that Brawn came out at the beginning of the season with a far superior car to everyone else. Of the top 4 drivers in the standings, only Vettel (and maybe Barrichello in his better days) would be championship material if everyone whad equal cars (in my opinion at least), unfortunately F1 rarely works like that though.
#158010
Just a thought but how glad are you all that Ecclestone's Win based championship didn't go ahead this year?

Roll on 2010? Jenson would already have won it.


He would, but this was a fluke season. The majority of recent seasons would still have gone to the wire. What has happened is it's highlighted the system's major flaw - not rewarding consistent performance.

I think there was mileage in the system, but it needed some playing with.
#158119
I think Jenson's issue lately has been qualifying. He starts in the middle pack then gets himself embroiled in all sorts of madness and more than often ends up getting stuck behind another car where he can't exploit his true pace.

Rubens has only finished ahead of Jenson 4 times this season. He's won two races, compared to Jenson's 6 wins. That hardly says WDC.

Jenson won 6 of the first 7 races all in magnificent style. That says World Champion. His performances recently have lacked that spark we seen from his earlier. Really its Jenson who deserves to be WDC, but I don't want to see him coast across the finish line. I badly want him to end the season on a high. Your only as good as your last race, and I don't want to see Jenson just coast to the championship title.
By Gaz
#158145
Rubens had potential at one point to become a top line driver, I think he wasted his best years in poor cars and poorer contracts. Button has never really looked like stepping up to the Alonso/Raikkonen/Hamilton level and I'm a little disappointed that it looks like he'll be champion this year.


I agree. Button is a bit underwhelming, there are quite a few drivers on the grid that are better than him, he was just lucky that Brawn came out at the beginning of the season with a far superior car to everyone else. Of the top 4 drivers in the standings, only Vettel (and maybe Barrichello in his better days) would be championship material if everyone whad equal cars (in my opinion at least), unfortunately F1 rarely works like that though.


Yeh but to be fair to Jenson he did beat Rubens in every race at the start of the season.

But I don't think he'd have a chance if Rubens was the same age not nearly 10 years older..
#158147
Problem is jenson won with brawn getting 1-2s by miles, they were clearly the best car out there. He's not really a driver that can preform "above the car"
#158176
Gone for Button as a Brit but only if he ups his game in these last few races, won't look so good if he just scrapes it with any more unremarkable performances.

But I like RB and think this might be his last realistic chance and think it'd be a shame for him not to make it if he outperforms button for the remainder.
#158178
How have any of Button's performances warranted the tag as worthy champion? He won six of the first seven Grands Prix because all of the other teams sucked. Ferrari and McLaren were ill-prepared for the season and their KERS technologies were underdeveloped; Red Bull are lumbered with a mediocre Renault engine and they did not have the double diffuser until quite late on in the season; BMW have mysteriously gone so far backwards it defies belief; and Alonso is driving French scrap. Also to be factored in, Button's team mate, Barrichello, was a waste of space until half way through the season. Under those circumstances, even the poorest of racing drivers could have built up a decent lead.

As those conditions have changed, the flaws in Button's driving has been exposed. He is a typical British driver: Button can drive the car well only when the car itself, or the circuit, or the track conditions suit his particular style of driving. But great drivers are able to adapt to the conditions and have a variety of driving styles in their arsenal. Just watch how Alonso or Hamilton operate at the moment. Senna and Schumacher in the past. It's a pleasure to watch guys of their class. Button, however, is one dimensional. Furthermore, Button has buckled so badly under the pressure, he has not even been able to gather a solid number of points until the last two Grands Prix, and even that was slightly fortuitous. Once again, I don't ever recall past champions coming apart as pathetically.

People have fallen victim to the media's rhetoric. Brawn's story is not the fairy tale it has been made out to be. The title battle has neither been close nor exciting. Button's performance has not been reminiscent of Schumacher. The truth is Brawn are basically Honda in disguise. The title battle has pissed away by the likes of Red Bull to the point of farce. Button's performances have been lamentable. I mean, I am so underwhelmed that I have completely forgotten two championships are actually being fought for.

So, with the possible exception of Hawthorn and Rosberg, Button will be the least credible champion in the sport's history.
#158183
I'm glad you like. Me, I'm fed up with all the revisionism.
#158188
I'm glad you like. Me, I'm fed up with all the revisionism.


If it's not McLaren v Ferrari we just don't want it do we?

It hasn't been a great year from my point of view because Hamilton's not been in the running. It didn't really matter who was at the front from that point, it would still feel boring to watch.

All major teams have blips in prolonged runs of success - it just so happened that Ferrari and McLaren had theirs at the same time thanks largely to the rule changes.

6 months until the real competition begins :rolleyes:

Hopefully.
#158194
A lot of people are disappointed with how Brawn and Red Bull have gone about this title battle, but they seem to forget that neither team has been in a position like this before and in comparison to other teams that have fought for and won/lost championships (Ferrari, McLaren, Renault) they are relatively young. You only get good at fighting for championships by fighting for championships.
#158199
If it's not McLaren v Ferrari we just don't want it do we?

It hasn't been a great year from my point of view because Hamilton's not been in the running. It didn't really matter who was at the front from that point, it would still feel boring to watch.

All major teams have blips in prolonged runs of success - it just so happened that Ferrari and McLaren had theirs at the same time thanks largely to the rule changes.

6 months until the real competition begins :rolleyes:

Hopefully.

Well, Ferrari versus McLaren battles tend to be the most exciting, but that's not why I'm unhappy. I just feel that this season has been a let down, ruined by the muggish behaviour of its key players.

A lot of people are disappointed with how Brawn and Red Bull have gone about this title battle, but they seem to forget that neither team has been in a position like this before and in comparison to other teams that have fought for and won/lost championships (Ferrari, McLaren, Renault) they are relatively young. You only get good at fighting for championships by fighting for championships.

Oh, come on! What a cop out. Both Red Bull and Brawn have plenty of experienced personnel. And, even if they did not, it would still not explain the infantile errors witnessed in this shambolic season.

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